Freemasonry and occultism, excerpts from a discussion

[Image of inverted satanic pentagram inscribed in circle, face of Baphomet in penagram]

I already commented on the last page, but apparently you’re a little slow on the uptake.
Here’s some more:


The pentagram is used as a Christian symbol for the five senses,[15] and if the letters S, A, L, V, and S are inscribed in the points, it can be taken as a symbol of health (from Latin salus).[16]

Medieval Christians believed it to symbolise the five wounds of Christ. The pentagram was believed to protect against witches and demons.[17]

The pentagram figured in a heavily symbolic Arthurian romance:[17] it appears on the shield of Sir Gawain in the 14th century poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. As the poet explains, the five points of the star each have five meanings: they represent the five senses, the five fingers, the five wounds of Christ,[18] the five joys that Mary had of Jesus (the Annunciation, the Nativity, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and the Assumption), and the five virtues of knighthood which Gawain hopes to embody: noble generosity, fellowship, purity, courtesy, and compassion.

Most Christians, probably due to their misinterpretation of symbols used by ceremonial magicians, came to associate it with Satanism and subsequently rejected the symbol sometime in the twentieth century.[17]

Bolded the part most important for Christians ignorant of their own religion.”

-This is true the pentagram was a Xtian symbol for many years before it was considered “satanic”. The pentagram can be inscribed over the five points at which Jesus was injured as well as over many other things.

The pentagram has almost nothing to do with “satanism”. I use quotation marks because actual theological satanists are few are far inbetween, and they mostly live in their parents basements.

The main reason why fraternal organizations involved with occultic philosophy, symbology etc. maintain a vow of secrecy is because of the commonplace inability to think critically in the mainstream of humanity. People love a boogeyman, they’d rather believe in devil-worship than the somewhat mundane truth.

I’m not a Mason, but that’s not an “inverted pentagram”? If there was a pentagram in the lodge, why would it have to be inverted? Or, do you just call it an “inverted pentagram” because that sounds cooler than just calling it a 5 pointed star? Is it possible that an organization called the Order of the Eastern Star might just use a star as their emblem? Of course it is, but it sounds much cooler to just say that they are in fact devil worshippers.

-Inverted pentagrams are typically considered to be negative in ceremonial magick. This is due to the elemental attributions of the five points, most importantly the attribution of “spirit” to the cardinal point, with the four classical elements beneath. A regular pentagram, pointing upwards, represents man’s spiritual aspiration. If the pentagram is inverted, the symbolism is reversed. The inverted pentagram thus represents man’s descent into matter.

“I never understood why a goat is always sacrificed? Also, why a goats head inside a satanic pentagram?”

-The goat symbolism comes from Pan and other paganistic horned-gods. Pan and his varied equivalents are conceptualized as personifying the forces of nature, which in man are present as instincts and bestial nature.

Ceremonial and ritual practice that contains such symbolism is usually aimed at deconstructing the ego-concept, or in other words freeing the practitioner from social conditioning etc.

You can see why all of this was quickly branded by various religions as satanic, a characterization which has been incorporated into the traditions themselves. A good example of this is that fucking buffoon who founded modern satanism, Anton LaVey. LaVey was an atheist and didn’t believe in satan at all, for him worship of the devil was just the best way to free himself from the society he matured in, while simultaneously giving the metaphorical finger to everyone.

You seem like you have a good head on your shoulders. If you read more about orders like the Freemasons you will see why the need for secrecy has been such a large part of their history, this thread being a prime example.

You have to understand that (a) a large part of occult philosophy and symbology is rooted in greek philosophy, particularly neo-platonism and the quasi-religious thought of pythagoras’ school (this is where the pentagram comes from). and (b) Throughout its history occultism has maintained a high-grade of secrecy through necessity, a necessity which no longer exists. (Think inquisition)

As a result knowledge was condensed into symbols, glyphs and metaphorical language that could not be deciphered without “initiation”. Essentially teachings etc. are translated into a second-language of sorts, after which they can be discussed without actually being discussed. This includes glyphs and symbols, such as the pentagram, hexagram, and the kabbalistic tree of life.

After someone is initiated, they have enough knowledge to decipher the lingo. Of course in modern times all you need to study occultism is the internet, provided you are willing to put forth effort and are semi-bright. But the fact remains that unless you have deciphered occult teachings, you have no idea what the hell is going on.

Take for instance the number 666, it means something completely different then the vast majority of people think, and has more to do with Jesus than Satan.

~ by ethmgallagher on September 30, 2009.

4 Responses to “Freemasonry and occultism, excerpts from a discussion”

  1. Your site was extremely interesting, especially since I was searching for thoughts on this subject last Thursday.

  2. I don’t know If I said it already but …This blog rocks! I gotta say, that I read a lot of blogs on a daily basis and for the most part, people lack substance but, I just wanted to make a quick comment to say I’m glad I found your blog. Thanks, 🙂

    A definite great read..Jim Bean

  3. Thnanks Jimmy I’m glad people are appreciating my work. I’ve been kind of slow lately, school is back in and all that, but I’m planning some new pieces which will be up in the near future.

  4. I don’t know If I said it already but …I’m so glad I found this site…Keep up the good work I read a lot of blogs on a daily basis and for the most part, people lack substance but, I just wanted to make a quick comment to say GREAT blog. Thanks, 🙂

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